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In 2004Lewisham Council announced plans to demolish Ladywell Leisure Centre in 2007 - we saved it! The pool will stay open until the forecast replacement is ready.  Sadly the plan is awfully inadequate and instead of being a plan for a community sport and leisure centre it is a plan for a lifestyle pool for the new residential developments to be built in front of Lewisham Station.

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DEMONSTRATING WORKS!

Yes, it does!

What a great day for Lewisham! The community coming together to claim their rights!
No more subjects but informed citizens.

The demonstration saw about 200 people of every age and background come together and march with joy to sing it to the mayor. This was the first achievement of the day.


The second achievement of the day has been the definitive dismissal of the unsavoury schools vs pools dilemma that the council wanted to put the people of Lewisham into.

This is one of the richest towns in the world and to be asked to choose between a pool and a school means only that whoever manages our money should try to improve their record or get another job.

A speech by the secretary of the local NUT outside the Town Hall and the fact that the petition was handed in by councillor Helen LeFevre, elected by the campaign for the new secondary school in Lewisham, demolished the argument that those that want to keep the pool don't care about children as the Mayor suggested.

The sight of the Council Town Hall was already suggestive of an exceptional meeting to come. This because most of the majority seats were empty. A sign that many indeed didn't want to be associated with this decision and they rather give it a miss altogether.

Soon came the time for the campaign to put their question from the public in.

The question was:
In your letter published in the local press on 29th October 2003 you stated as follows: "As long as I am mayor there will be a top class swimming facility in the centre of our borough and I am looking forward to being the first person into the pool when it re-opens."
This you said at the time to quit the rumours surrounding the fate of Lewisham's best swimming pool.
Following your recent blatant U turn on this matter, we regrettably have to put our trust in you on hold.
We therefore ask you not to proceed with the plan to demolish the Ladywell Leisure Centre until a new upgraded public swimming facility is opened in the centre of this borough.

And the answer from the Mayor was:

When I stood for election as Mayor in 2002, I said that “an early priority will be to take urgent action to ensure that in future there will be enough secondary school places in the parts of the borough where they are needed.”  For many of us that means opening a new secondary school.  In the last two years it has been possible to relieve some of the pressure by increasing the roll at some schools and by opening Crossways Academy, which has helped significantly by releasing space in the schools which send students on to it. However, the need for a new school remains.
Shortly after being elected, I was informed that asbestos had been discovered at Ladywell pool, which was already listed for closure and to be replaced by a new leisure centre in central Lewisham.  At the same time a number of possible sites for the new school were being explored. My view was that the potential gap of 8 years before the new pool would be ready was far too long and that Ladywell should be brought back into use as soon as possible.
Until this Spring I believed that the Play Tower site was achievable as the site for the new school.  The decision of the MPA to market their property on the site rather than sell it to us by direct negotiation wrecked that possibility.
I asked Council officials again to look at alternative sites which would allow the new school to open in temporary premises in 2006.  The only way identified to achieve this was to use the Ladywell pool site.
This presented me with a dilemma – on the one hand the need to further increase the supply of secondary places by opening a new school as quickly as possible – on the other my commitment to keeping Ladywell open until the replacement was ready.  It is my job to resolve such dilemmas and make decisions, however difficult.  I took into account many factors; however three in particular weighed heavily with me:
I have consistently promised parents and students that a new school will take in its first students in 2006.
The Lewisham Gateway scheme is now a certainty, ensuring a new leisure centre in central Lewisham will be delivered. The Downham Lifestyles pool will open in 2006.
I therefore decided to accept that the Ladywell pool should close in 2007 to provide the permanent site for the new school. 
Lewisham needs better schools and better leisure facilities and I am determined to deliver them. Lewisham is however a heavily built-up area and there are very few sites available for development. This means that in order to make the progress we want, we also have to live with disruption and short term problems – in this case the gap between the closure of one leisure centre and the opening of its replacement.
I can understand those who use Ladywell pool wanting to delay the opening of the school but I must take all things into account and my conclusion is that on balance the school should take priority.

Then we had the possibility of an extra question. We didn't take this opportunity as we have only one question for the mayor.
We pointed out to the mayor that his reply conteins several imprecisions and that our campaign is here to stay and to tackle him about the issue until we have a satisfactory response.
We also riminded the room of our intention to ask the single councillors about their voting on the issue and the reasons behind those and to consequently put their voters aware of their record in the matter of demolition of public facilities.
Later in the meeting councillor Julia Fletcher read out the motion asking the Mayor not to proceed with the demolition of the Ladywell Leisure Centre until the replacement is built.
Her introductory speech, together with that of councillor Ian Page which was the other councillor to present the motion, touched on all the milestones of this sorry story.

Then the Mayor stood!

And he told everybody about how hard his job can be sometimes. When you have to make hard decisions. When you have to find a site for a school and the only piece of land in the Borough available is the land where the swimming pool stands.
If only anybody had a better idea! Maybe some council official has a better idea. Maybe somebody from the opposition has a better idea. Maybe somebody in the majority has a better idea but didn't speak it out yet. Maybe we ought to try a little bit harder to find a solution. Does anybody want to give me a possible solution to this school riddle? If you can do so we can spare the pool.

After saying this he sat.

He hadn't touched the velvet of the chair yet that from the chair next to him deputy mayor councillor Gavin Moore stood and said that in the light of this challenge from the Mayor about finding a better place for the school, they should give themselves some more time before putting to vote the motion from the opposition.
So he asked to vote for the postponment of the vote for Julia Fletcher's motion to the next council meeting that will be held on the 28th October.
The majority voted in favour, the minority against, nobody absteined.
So the postponement was approved.

And all the Labour councillors could breath again.

Later on the agenda there was a question by councillor Darren Johnson about wether the council had carried out any study on the impact of the closure of the pool and what consultion was carried out.
The answer shines for elusiveness. Read it all here.

Another important question from the opposition was posed by councillor Mark Morris.
The Cabinet was here asked to give a report on the state of the works for the Downham pool.
The answer this time is much more grim then elusive.
In short, the works haven't started yet, if and when they will commence is anybody's guess.
Read it all here.

Quick analisys

With this excellent piece of theatre they could buy themselves some time.
They surely hope that the campaign loses pace, but maybe they will really look for some new site for the school.
On the school issue Labour already lost few councillors at the last elections and surely they don't want to loose any more seats.
Then there is the issue of the debate inside the Labour group at the council and the wider Labour party in Lewisham.
Many activists are very disillusioned about the real capability of this council to respond to the needs of the borough, and if the look of the council is one of cynisism and arrogance in these sort of decision making they will see their chore support disappear. The mayor had the evidence of this disaffection clearly displayed at the Brockley meeting of the 7th September. (Read about this meeting here).
We know that many labour councillor don't support this decision but they don't have the courage yet to challenge the Mayor's leadership openly.
This political situation now is for our campaign a great achievement.
At the previous meeting all the majority councillors voted against a motion similar to the one put to vote today.

Only one councillor dared to abstein. And has been disciplined for doing so.

Moreover, the speeches from the some of the Labour councillors were deliveries of utter arrogance and dismissive contempt, a tone that they wouldn't dare to keep today.
And this is the achievement of the work of the Save Ladywell Pool campaigners.
Two months of relenteless building of a platform for the community to have their say on this tiny but important issue.
The right to have a swimming pool worthy of this name in Lewisham.

We now need urgently to hold a new meeting of the campaign to define the way forward.
This is not the moment to rest, we have to keep the pressure on the council.
We need to lobby each councillor and to be present in the press as much as possible.
The next meeting will be held on Thursday 7th October 7pm - 9 pm at the Ladywell Leisure Centre.